having a normal one where I'm stressed out about Pope Innocent IV's role in the history of corporate personhood

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anyone have recommendations on the historical emergence of the corporation and the concept of property? legal theory tends to assume both as givens

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@ingrid I’ve always enjoyed Coase’s theory of the firm paper. Also Chandler, maybe? And Polyani?

@Chanders feel like I need something more Graeber-y--finding the "well the pope had this idea and then it became part of european common law and then" explanations I'm finding a bit too simple in the vein of "money happens because barter complicated"

@ingrid Not sure if this fits, but there is a transcript to glance through to see if this gets close to what you are looking for: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/13/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-katharina-pistor.html

@ingrid this is not an academic source and rather old, and also starts later than Pope Innocent IV , but I've always enjoyed Paco Xander Nathan's take on the emergence of the (modern) corporation. http://www.tripzine.com/listing.php?id=corporate_metabolism

(disclaimer: I think the link above takes you to a presentation transcript by Paco on the topic that might differ from the text I read 20 years ago, but I don't have the energy to check right now.)

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Also, iirc he does not get into the whole medieval guilds, universities and such stuff. I am sure I must have encountered more on that in my former life as a histsci person with a strong interest in medieval foo, but my memory fails me right now. Definitely nothing Graeber-y though. I am curious what others bring up!

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