This statement combines a lot of what I think is good and less good about the thread of LLM criticism it’s from. I don’t think the stochastic parrot interpretation is more than one interesting model, I believe the relevant problems with longermism are almost completely disjoint from the ones mentioned, and I am unconvinced that marking media by consciousness of author is either philosophically clear or practically useful. However, I agree firmly with the tl;dr. dair-institute.org/blog/letter

I continue to feel pretty alone in the interpretation that these models are neither trivial nor conscious; that they are neither nukes nor penicillin; that practically all the urgent questions about them are really the same urgent questions we’ve had about political economy, offshoring, and corporate governance for decades; and so on. I finally get to be a filthy centrist on an important issue and it turns out it’s boring.

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@vruba I agree with all of that. Welcome! You’re right, it is boring here. But at least we’re not lying awake in bed worried about nanobots turning us into paperclips

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@tjl I think I will decline this welcome based on the recollection that you and I actually disagree very sharply about what good faith discourse on issues of corporate governance might look like.

@vruba ok. I am sorry to learn this but remain an admirer of yours

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