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trying to figure out the origins/earliest reference to the clever observation that corporations are a form of "artificial intelligence"--the 2018 @cstross CCC talk comes up a lot in citations; I first heard it from @dymaxion in 2014 but years later she attributed it to Stross, so maybe he'd been working on it for a while before the 2018 CCC

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@ingrid @brewsterkahle Are you looking specifically for the phrase “artificial intelligence” or more generally that corps are a sort of collective cognition?

@tb @ingrid

I was trying to answer the question: what will AI's be like?

and I wanted to suggest look at corporations: long-lived, infinitely scalable, simple goal model (stupid), and controlled by very few people. militaries strike me as similar.

@ingrid @dymaxion It's at the very least implicit in "Accelerando", the stories of which were published from 2002 to 2004.

@cstross @ingrid @dymaxion this may go back to the extropians list prior to accelerando, but unsure if there are archives from that time period.

@ingrid 60s or earlier, discussion in pol econ is around “the firm”. Likely popularized 90s

@ingrid @cstross @dymaxion I’ve had it in my head for a year or so now that organizations in general are a form of artificial intelligence (and have a WIP that may explore the idea a bit if I ever get around to finishing it), but for me that particular idea arose as a response to @adapalmer’s description of empires as prosthetics (and was no doubt also influenced by the Hobbesian ideas that her work also draws from).

@ingrid @cstross @dymaxion @adapalmer I also vaguely remember an article from a number of years ago about how the first AI’s would likely resemble bureaucracies, but I couldn’t tell you when or where it was.

@ingrid I feel like I got the idea from YOU in like 2016 or 2017

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